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Subject: NewTEk's ADD campaign
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 02:37:43 +0000
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I HATE IT!! CHANGE YOUR ADD STYLES!!!! I really think the adds do not do justice to
LightWave..anyoen else agree???

Comeone newtek..dump the lame adds...those rendered balls saying we got what ti
takes..doesn;t cut it.


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Wagoner)
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Subject: Q: Anyone know of a Render Farm service?
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:17:47 CENTRAL
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We have several animations that would consume our machines from doing other
required development work. If there was an outfit I could send our scenes to
and have rendered for a fee, it would speed things up greatly.

Thanks, RW

Animated Objects, Inc.
www.AnimatedObjects.com/www/area/

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From: [e-mail] (Mstets)
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Subject: Lightwave feature
Date: Wed,  6 Mar 1996 07:36:00 GMT
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Here's a suggestion for a Layout improvement.  It will probably seem a
little lazy, but so be it.  How about a button to copy a current light's
intensity envelope to it's lens flare intensity, or vice versa.  Not
necessary by any means, just convenient.
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From: Gwynne Reddick <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RAM & Diamond Stealth Problems
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In article: <[e-mail]>  Todd Mizomi <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> Lightwave only seems to recognize 10Megs of RAM in the scene panel
> even though we have 32 (running Win95 BTW).  Does this mean LW uses
> 22megs JUST for the program?!?!?
>
Use  the system monitor to check on the size of your disk cache -
you`ll more than likely get quite a surprise. The min and max values can
be set in the system.ini under the vcache section. W95 was using
anywhere between 12 and 23 megs on my machine `til I set the max
value to 2megs!

Gwynne.
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From: [e-mail] (DJM2984712)
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Subject: Re: Question about light flare
Date: 7 Mar 1996 04:43:32 -0500
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In article <4hkghl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Blake Porter) writes:

>Question: How to get a flare to engulf the camera view?

Crank up the flare intensity.

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From: [e-mail] (DJM2984712)
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Subject: Re: My 2 cents on Max or LW thread...
Date: 7 Mar 1996 04:43:46 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, Marco Sederquist
<[e-mail]> writes:

>Maybe it is the program that makes the animation and not the animator.

Maybe it was the paintbrush that painted the Mona Lisa and not the
painter.

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From: [e-mail] (DJM2984712)
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Subject: Re: Fyer Clip
Date: 7 Mar 1996 04:44:06 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Donna, Michael"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>If I reboot and open up the Flyer and look for what there is of the clip,
I
>find the saved icon with the title we assigned to it.  But when I try to
look
>at it, there's nothing to it.  The Flyer identifies it as Mystery Clip.

Don't know if it's related or not, but I learned the hard way to save my
Flyer clip animations to drives identified by their volume name, not their
device name (ie., FlyerA0, FlyerB1, not FA0 or FB1).

Before you do anything though, delete your Mystery Clip & purify your
drive so you can start fresh with a new clip.

Good luck.

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From: Desierto <desierto>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
Date: 7 Mar 1996 12:38:03 GMT
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The better is not so important. If you can do what they basically say, and you
can see the tremendous amount of people usin 3D Studio, the basic choice is
3D Studio.

But,,, if you want to animate, or make a lot of animation compared with
modelling, try to see SOFTIMAGE|3D. Yes, it is expesive, and you computer must
be a powerful machine, but this soft is on other galaxy.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael B. Comet)
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Subject: Re: Memory BUG?
Date: 7 Mar 1996 14:30:23 GMT
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In a previous article [e-mail] (Tony Lisanti) said:

>
>
>  Ive heard that lightwave has a bug in it that wont let you use extended
> memeory (INTEL) Is this true? I'd hate to order LW and install only to find my
> 24MB cant be used. Or is this a problem that was fixed already?? HUH?

        Ummm...what?  I have 32 megs of RAM.  Works great.

mbc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcICIB)
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Subject: Re: programming plugins
Date: 7 Mar 1996 09:40:56 -0500
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Try out the Microsoft MSVC 2.0 i think with Borland you will get trouble.
Watcom might work also. We are using the MSVC 2.0 and 4.0. Use first the
makefiles supplied with the sample code. Ok thats all.

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From: [e-mail] (MarcICIB)
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Subject: Re: Q: Anyone know of a Render Farm service?
Date: 7 Mar 1996 09:51:59 -0500
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Hello Mr. Wagoner,
we are a german animation team, and we are working with a 20 NT
Rendersystem under Lightwave. If your projekt isn't to big for our farm,
or the timelimit wasn't yeasterday we could help you. We are using a
Matrox MAX system to output frames to Video, the quality range starts at
S-VHS, Composit, Component to D1 quality. If you intrested please contact
us.

E-Mail [e-mail]
Fax     [phone]
Tel      [phone]

So long from Germany

Marc Hammermann
Teamleader Service ICIB GmbH

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Smith)
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Subject: 2001:Space Oddessy objects?
Date: 7 Mar 1996 14:59:12 GMT
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Does anyone have, or have come across any objects from 2001? Like the space station
or pods, or anything ? I know it's a long shot, but I thought I'd ask. I've checked
Avalon without any luck...

Stu



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In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:

> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dwight Gruber) writes:
> >Subject: Re: Help Lee Stranahan find a new title for this thread
> >From: [e-mail] (Dwight Gruber)
> >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 15:14:56 PST
>
> >In <[e-mail]>,
> >[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:
>

                             --snip--

> >>
> >> And plastic yo-yos would have never replaced wooden ones.
> >>
>
> >Having owned and used both, I can assure you that for all purposes
> >(except, perhaps, the odd crack on the noggin) plastic YoYos are superior
> >to wooden ones.
>
> >                                         --DwightG
>
> >--
> >[e-mail]
>
> Name one.  In order to do all tricks, you need a Duncan Butterfly AND a
> "regular" (Imperial or similar).

I never claimed that you shouldn't use the right tool for the right job.

>                                   The Pro-Yo (plastic) has similar problems
> unless you happen to have the Pro version with a wooden axel.

Yes, one of the problems is that wooden axles don't hold up over the long
term. And, I couldn't even *think* of using one of my wooden Duncans with
a nylon string (an abomination if there ever was one).

>                                                                Yomega makes
> very nice plastics (Fireball and Raider) that do very well on sleeping and
> "trapeze" tricks, but are very poor with "dynamic" (loop the loop) tricks. I
> don't know of a single plastic yo-yo that can do it all.  A $4 Hummingbird
> (wooden) or a Kuhn 3 in 1 No-Jive (top-notch wooden)  will do it all.  I have
> access to an old wooden Duncan that does all tricks as well.

Actually, I've never had any problem with my old Imperial (one with a
chevron stamp, rather than a fleur-de-lis--it is just a touch narrower
than the newer ones). I've never cared much for Butterflys...actually, I
rather like the mass of a Mardi-Gras. Actually, the problems you invoke
may result from the fact that the quality of Duncan YoYos has fallen
drastically in the last 30 years...

>
> If I model a yo-yo and animate "The Brain Twister", will this post be on topic?
>

Yes, absolutely...will you upload the binary so we can all share??

--Dwight



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Subject: FS: Entry-level Alpha, cheap!
Date: Thu,  7 Mar 96 10:22:15 +500
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Hi all,
    Due to recent financial upheavels (baby makes three :), I have to
give up my Alpha workstation. Please email for information...thanks.

Zach

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From: [e-mail] (Henning Hoffmann)
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
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[e-mail] (Tim Krego) wrote:

>On 6 Mar 1996 17:12:47 GMT, [e-mail] (Gary Helfrich) wrote:
>>I think that you should look at all of these applications as tools, and
>>evaluate how effective they are based on their utility, rather than
>>dismiss some of them as toys.  I own a machine shop, and use trueSpace to
>For you application trueSpace2 works, but doing a few illustrations
>for a catalog is not the same thing as production level animation.
>Have you ever tried to use ts2 for animation? Very limited.

I think you missed his point. Whatever works for you and does what you want is
an effective tool in your belt. Just because it's 'low-end' does not mean its a
toy.

Henning


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From: [e-mail] (Chris Blanos)
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Subject: Re: NewTEk's ADD campaign
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 14:49:17 GMT
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Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I HATE IT!! CHANGE YOUR ADD STYLES!!!! I really think the adds do not do justice to
>LightWave..anyoen else agree???

Yep...I agree.


- Chris

[e-mail]
http://pluto.njcc.com/~chrisb/


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Helfrich)
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Tim Krego ([e-mail]) wrote:

: For you application trueSpace2 works, but doing a few illustrations
: for a catalog is not the same thing as production level animation.
: Have you ever tried to use ts2 for animation? Very limited.

No, as I said, I'm not an animator. Ever tried to create 3D spline based
sufaces, and generate machine code or .stl files from them?  TrueSpace is
terrible at this also (as is Lighwave, 3DS, and even Autocad). I'm not
saying that trueSpace is useful for animation.  I am pointing out that
there instances where it has the right tools for the job, and will do the
task in a quick and efficient manner.

There are times when a pencil in the right hands will give far better
output than high end software on a SGI.  It just depends on the task at
hand and the talent in those hands.

You seem to have missed my point: I am not doing animation.  I am doing
rendering of some of our existing cad drawings for illustration.
TrueSpace is a great tool for this job. It is no way a toy when it comes
to this task.  I doubt that I could import cad files and and create a
a rendered image as fast in Lightwave or 3DS.  I'm not making movies,
just a few quick drawings to use in assembly docs. The modeless interface
is a real no brainer to use.  This is important when, like me, you tend
to misplace your brain from time to time.

To respond to your next post:

Our shop uses Microstation and Cadkey for cad modeling, and Surfcam for
G-Code post processing.  We used to use Autocad.  Now there is a program
(Acad) that I would classify as a toy.  Pro/E is another interesting
example when it comes to evaluating which tool is appropriate for the
job.  Most of its bloated feature set just gets in the way in designing
everyday parts.  Just wondering, have you ever tried to use Pro/E?
Cadkey, even though it is a $700. program, will blow Pro/E away on
designing simple parts.  Just because it is inexpensive does not mean
that it is not a powerful application.

Gary Helfrich
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Whitney)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave for Charact
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On 03-02-96, GORD was going on about Re: Lightwave for Charact

<much snipped>

  >
  >As for Animation Master, there's a devoted following of animators who
  >swear by it [and a few who swear at it!]. I haven't used the package,
  >but it does have some special features to facilitate character
  >animation. I believe there's an A:M newsgroup and Web page as well.
  >Anyone?
  >=====================================================================
  >=====  Gord Davison                      | 2D/3D Animator n


There's no Animation Master newsgroup as of yet per se, but there is a
mail list server that gets 20-30 messages a day.

Hash also has their web site at:  http://www.has.com/~hashinc/

There are links from there to other 3D sites.  A number of good tutorial
pieces are surfacing now in Acrobat format.

I have both programs, and to be honest, AM beats LW hands down for doing
character animation.  I've had the beta of V4 for a month now, but
haven't been able to play with all the features yet such as collision
detection and "Blobbies".  The lip sync module is due soon as well.

The interface is different, but not any more foreign than LW.  Modeling
in AM is much faster I think than LW, but it all comes down to practice.
I can export an AM object in DXF and then import into LW.  There are no
surface assignments unfortunately, but so it goes.

M.

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From: [e-mail] (Jason Linhart)
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Subject: Re: Memory BUG?
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[e-mail] (Michael B. Comet) wrote:

<clip>

>>  Ive heard that lightwave has a bug in it that wont let you use extended
>> memeory (INTEL) Is this true? I'd hate to order LW and install only to find my
>> 24MB cant be used. Or is this a problem that was fixed already?? HUH?

>        Ummm...what?  I have 32 megs of RAM.  Works great.

<clip>

Not that I know of, I have 64 MB and it works great.

Care to expand on where you heard this?

Jason Linhart
NewTek, Inc.



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From: [e-mail] (Creative Visions)
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Subject: Re: Question about light flare
Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:40:20 GMT
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Blake Porter ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Howdy!

: I would like to bring in a flying logo then have a light "flare" flare up
: from behind and engulf the entire screen in pure light giving me the
: opportunity to alter the logo i.e. make it change into a new version
: while you cannot see it. So when the light receeds I have a new version.

: Question: How to get a flare to engulf the camera view?

: Thank you kindly,

: Blake

Set the flare intensity envelope. Start at 0 and go to as high as you
want 250 or 1000.. I used this trick once before for a lightbulb. The
flare will eventually take over everything. blinding the whole screen

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From: [e-mail] (Jason Linhart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Preferred method for curves?
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 16:40:26 GMT
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[e-mail] (Tony Schreiner) wrote:

>I curious how other Lightwave users create rounded corners, since almost
>all "household" objects have them.

<clip>

>Are there any simpler ways to create rounded edges, or do I have to just
>stick with what I am already doing?

>--
>...........................................................................
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>: [e-mail]   :  INTP.  TKD.  Major: Computer Science  :
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

It does depend on the object that you are building.  You are on the
right track, just keep beveling.

 To make rounded edges, I typically follow the method of using
multiple bevels.  I have found that three bevels is plenty even when
the camera has to get close.  I pick 2 values that are used for inset
and shift.  example 20mm inset and 40 mm shift. The larger the
numbers, the larger the final radius will be.  I then do the following
sequence.

1. select the polygon to bevel.
2. bevel 20mm inset and 40 mm shift.
3. on the same polygon bevel 30mm inset 30mm shift ( This value is
halfway between the original values.)
4. on the same polygon bevel 40mm inset 20mm shift.

This will give a nice rounded edge.

Once again it doesn't work for all cases, but I have found it usefull
in a number of projects. (Hmmm, I do this enough that a plugin should
be created.  Maybe the user could enter the upper and lower values
plus the number of bevels..............)

Jason Linhart
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From: [e-mail] (Nanook of the South)
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[e-mail] (Stranahan) wrote:
>Okay, here's some controversial marketing advice - this is a really stupid
>policy, just as hurtful to LightWave in the long run as their ads.

I remember a company that talked about their next product before it
was being shipped.  K-Pro went bankrupt because everyone stopped
buying the current because the next one was going to be  _sooooo_
great and out "soon".

Now dropping un-official hints, ya.  But marketing hype on what ain't
even done yet?  That's Micro$lop!

Take it from someone who hangs out there every so often, they've got
some neet tricks in Beta.  But being the nice guy I am (and that I
promised not to tell), I gotta keep my fat mouth shut.

Y'all will just have to wait till release, or someone at NT lightens
up on the Alpha/Beta testers and let them gab a little.

L8r G8r
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From: [e-mail] (Nanook of the South)
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[e-mail] (Blake Porter) wrote:

>Howdy!
>
>I would like to bring in a flying logo then have a light "flare" flare up
>from behind and engulf the entire screen in pure light giving me the
>opportunity to alter the logo i.e. make it change into a new version
>while you cannot see it. So when the light receeds I have a new version.
>
>Question: How to get a flare to engulf the camera view?

Ramp your flair intensity up to 100%.  At this point you will
white-out the screen.  Ramp it back down to reveal your new logo.

Also for effect play with streaks, star-points, rotation and other
stuff... Have fun :)

L8r G8r
 Keith

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From: [e-mail] (Nanook of the South)
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[e-mail] (Tony Lisanti) wrote:
> Ive heard that lightwave has a bug in it that wont let you use extended
>memeory (INTEL) Is this true? I'd hate to order LW and install only to find my
>24MB cant be used. Or is this a problem that was fixed already?? HUH?

I've got 32M ram.  I regularly give it a 12M segment when rendering.
Of course Win95 has to swap all it's crap out of the way for me to use
it... But it's there.  The most I've gotten w/o the segment swapping
is arround 20M.

L8r G8r
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>   [e-mail] (joseph nelson) writes:
>  Zoltan Hunt ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>  : >plugins for LW/Intel, once we don't have AREXX there?
>
>  : I always wondered why somebody didn't port AREXX to WinNT, I mean OS/2
>  : has it, the Amiga had it since '87 (standard after '90-91).  What is
>  : with this?
>
>  I don't know about AREXX but there is a package called Object Rexx comming
>  out for NT and 95.

    PMFJI, but does this mean anything if REXX ports are not already in
    the applications?  (That's the way it was on the Amiga:  once a critical
    mass of AREXX capable s/w was out there, AREXX took off.  Knowing MS's
    tortuous policies, how many YEARS before this gets into the OS?)



>  Joseph Nelson

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Subject: Re: Looking for info and opinions on Sparks, Particle Storm, Impact, plugins,....
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>   [e-mail] (MuMan) writes:
>  Are the any Web Pages giving specs on what exactly these can do?
>
>  Sparks v. Particle Storm
>  Similar? Which is better? What all can they do? Is it just pixel based
>  particles or can you flock you own models?

    I too am looking for some flocking utilities for LWave.

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Ernie Wright wrote:
>
> Wayne Baldwin wrote:
>
> > I have some model data on a unix system which I would like to convert
> > to something Lightwave can read. Is there a standard ASCII format that
> > Lightwave will read? If yes is there a spec or better yet some simple
> > examples?
>
> LW will read Wavefront .OBJ and AutoCAD .DXF files, both of which have
> ASCII flavors.  If you want to write a converter yourself, and your
> main goal is to move the geometry, LW also reads the object format of
> its predecessor, Videoscape, and this format is particularly simple.
>
> Here's a pyramid (square base, triangle sides):
>
> 3DG1
> 5
> 0 2 0
> 1 0 -1
> -1 0 -1
> -1 0 1
> 1 0 1
> 3 0 1 2 7
> 3 0 2 3 7
> 3 0 3 4 7
> 3 0 4 1 7
> 4 1 4 3 2 7
>
> The first line is always "3DG1".  The second line gives the number of
> vertices.  Each vertex is listed on its own line.  This is followed
> by the polygon list, one polygon per line.  Each polygon line begins
> with the number of vertices, and this is followed by that many indexes
> into the vertex list, which is numbered from 0.  The last number on
> the line is a color code.
>
> The best way to use the color codes is to use a different number for
> each surface.  When LW loads a Videoscape object, the surfaces will be
> named, e.g., "Videoscape code 7".  It's easy enough to rename this and
> set the surface properties to whatever they should be.
>
> - Ernie

  The example you show above is an old Videoscape object format correct?
Would it be called pyramid.obj? Is there a special way to load it into
Lightwave layout?
  I am not to concerned with colors, but I would like to specify normals
at the vertices. Does Lightwave let you do this or are you restricted
to letting it come up with it's own normals? Also I note the numbers
above are all integers. Will Lightwave take float's or do I have to
say multiply by 10000 and truncate my data?

Thanks for the help
Wayne R. Baldwin
[e-mail]

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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
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Gary Helfrich wrote:
>
>>>>Snip<<<<<<
> If I need to drill a few random holes in a mounting bracket,I don't use
> a $70K machining center, I use my Milwaukee hand drill.  Is the
> Milwaukee drill a "toy"?  No way. I do not consider any of my tools that
> I use to earn a living with "toys".  Just because the Milwaukee cannot be
> programmed to copy a nurbs surface in steel within .0001" does not change
> the fact that it is the finest hand drill made.  Come to think of it, how
> does Lightwave (or MAX, Softimage, etc.) do when it comes to real 3D? (i.e.
> making an actual object, not moving pixels around on a display)
>
>>>>Snip<<<<<
> Gary Helfrich
> Arctos Machine

I use AutoCad and Microstation as a CADD Designer. I use Lightwave as a
computer animator. Animation packages such as Lightwave are good
visualization tools, but they are not well suited for design work. It is
an apples and oranges situation. Lightwave is a polygonal based program.
A true circle does not exist in Lightwave. All objects are made of a
series of points that are referenced to form numerous single plane
polygons. Numerous flat polygons arranged in a sphereical array form
spheres. I do prefer modeling 3D objects with the Lightwaves modeler.
The multiple views of Autocad and Microstation are not linked together
like they are with the Lightwave modeler. Lightwave can handle accuracy
of micro meters to million of kilometers. A model with sub-millimeter
accuracy can be placed in a scene with models that are millions of
meters in size. Lightwave does get flakey when you work with very
large extremes in scale. Modeling a single cell organism in a full-scale
solar system is pushing it. This is actually IMPOSSIBLE with
microstation, which uses an interger, rather than floating point,
numerical system. Lightwave is as accurate as Autocad. But, depending on
what your goal is, I would not necessarily reccomed it as a design tool.

DLF

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In een bericht van 03 Mar 96 Rlindema gericht aan All:

 >> Hi there!

 >> Any Amiga users (Still) out there?

 >> Greetings,

 >> Jeroen van Velsen (NETMAIL: 14:101/101.8)
 >>                  (E-Mail: [e-mail])
 >> A4000T V3.1 WarpEngine 040/40mhz 22mb RAM
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 R> This is something special for the dutch guy.......

 R> Ik denk meer dan genoeg. Alleen niet iedereen laat het weten.
 R> Maar ik blijf een AMIGA FANAAT in hard en nieren.
 R> Ook al werk ik normaal met PC'S op mijn werk.

 R> Groeten van uit MIDDEN HOLLAND........

En de groeten terug uit Zoetermeer...

Greetings,

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[e-mail] (Robert Dollase) wrote:

>Vaibhav Goel ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <N.030596.162232.52@#giorgioa.ix.netcom.com>,
>:  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>: >Cons: Very difficult to master, not very intuitive.
>: >

>: If you are looking for the "easy way",3D graphics and animation is not
>: for you.  No matter _WHAT_ program you use, you will have to put in a
>: _LOT_ of time and be very dedicated to being a reasonable artist.  I am
>: not disputing the fact that Real3D is hard to learn; sure it is.  But if
>: you put in the time and effort, Real3D will provide you with the _tools_
>: to help you.

>: >Any last minute suggestion's before I purchase LW?

>: I hope you dont need some features or have the cash to afford the plugins
>: you _might_ need for such stuff as particle animation and built in physics,
>: collision detection etc.  With LW you will have to buy 3rd part plugins for
>: all this stuff.  With Real3D it is all built in and part of the package.

>: In any case, good luck with whatever program you choose.

>: Regards,
>: Vaibhav
>: --
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>: --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I have to agree with the above.  Real3D was the first 3D program I
>learned; in fact it was the first time I seriously used a computer and
>even I got used to it before long.  And since then I've been increasingly
>pleased with the results I've been able to get with all its power and
>options...it's a good program.


I would love to know what Real3D is being used for on a commercial
level.  Who is using it and what are they creating.  I'd like some
examples.  I know of game titles, tv shows, commercials, movies, etc
that have been created with all the packages, except for Real3D

I keep hearing how much power it has, but I've not seen much done with
it.  I've messed with the Real3D demo and I really do not like it at
all, I'd rather use the DOS interface on 3D Studio than Real 3D.  We
have chosen Lightwave which has a hell of alot of power and is nice to
use,  It's still got the Amiga interface that it has, but we've grown
quite comfortable with it.  Obviously we are not the only ones that
like Lightwave, but a number of television shows have been done with
Lightwave.  As far as getting new features, the Lightwave plug-ins are
not a killer on the pocketbook, especially if you do design work
commericially, you can recoup the cost with one project.  And NewTek
gives you the SDK on the CD so you can develop your own plug-ins if
need to extend the power, we're working on some of our own right now.
I don't see how putting time into a program is being used as an
argument for Real3D,  I'd prefer to put time into Lightwave and have a
few killer scenes than to spend the time with Real3D to figure out how
to get the right window up for the operation I want.

We also use Animation Master, which even without the book is easy to
use, it's got a very clean object oriented design structure to it, as
well as having the most powerful organic modelers this side of buying
Alias.

Chuck Durham
Imaginative Entertainment
[e-mail]
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THe memory bug was due to hiip loaders/savers and was fixxed in REV C. Basically LW
wouldn;t free up memory after loading the images in a sequence..something like that..


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[e-mail] (VirtualBri) wrote:

>You see, it's because LightWave has special artificial intelligence that
>actually improves upon the concepts and ideas of the user.  For example,
>if I build a ball, and surface it with fractal noise, LightWave will
>transform my scene to a 300,000 ploygon space battle scene, complete with
>image mapped explosions and surfacing, and a fully-orchestrated musical
>score to accompany the sequence.

>Talent, skill and hundreds of hours of hard work are no longer an issue.

Whew! Thank God for that.

>LightWave allows me to concentrate on my other jobs of selling famous
>bridges and prime beach-front Florida property.  :)
>--Brian

You must be talking about the new "direct neural interface plug-in" for LW?
With the SCSI II-Fast DirectBrainLink (tm) technology, superior images are
guaranteed. So even if your imagination is sub-standard, the optional
imagination-enhancement module [sold separately] can compensate. :^)


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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: Virtual Visions is on the Web!
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After losing many nights sleep this week, I finally have the Virtual Visions
World Wide Web pages online!

Stop by and visit our site and let us (well, me anyway =|^) know what you
think!

        http://www.dimensional.com/~vvisions/

There's also a surprise hidden on your WWW site for those of you considering
purchasing the BML(tm) system:  A limited-functionality, evaluation version
of the BML(tm) v1.1 Scriping Plugin for Win32-based systems!  The Evaluation
Plugin has a page dedicated to it with complete instructions on getting
and installing the software.

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PLEASE NOTE!  All Virtual Visions-related files that were formerly on:

        ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/LightWave

have been moved to a new site.  These files now have a new home on:

        ftp.dimensional.com:/users/vvisions

This site should be much easier to access than Netcom.
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I hope you enjoy my handiwork!  And, by the way, if you see Joe Cow, please
tell him to get back here pronto!  His work is piling up.

=|^)

Render me gone,               |||
Bob                         ^(===)^
-------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------------------------
Bob Hood, President | All governments suffer from a recurring problem:
Virtual Visions,Inc.| Power attracts pathological personalities.  It is not
Tel: [phone] | that power corrupts, but that it is magnetic to the
FAX: [phone] | corruptible.  Such people have a tendency to become
                    | drunk on violence, a condition to which they are
[e-mail]    | quickly addicted              - Frank Herbert
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--
Render me gone,               |||
Bob                         ^(===)^
-------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------------------------
Bob Hood, President | All governments suffer from a recurring problem:
Virtual Visions,Inc.| Power attracts pathological personalities.  It is not
Tel: [phone] | that power corrupts, but that it is magnetic to the
FAX: [phone] | corruptible.  Such people have a tendency to become
                    | drunk on violence, a condition to which they are
[e-mail]    | quickly addicted              - Frank Herbert
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Subject: In Sale Amiga 2000
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:29:42 GMT
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I am saling an Amiga 2000 with a GVP acelarator with 680030 cpu at 40 Mhz, with
the 68882 mathematic coprosesor, 2 MB chip memory and 12 MB Ram, 200 Mb in
Hard drive and the Video Toaster card with the 4.0 software, 2.0 Rom.
Ready to use. Price $2500  Please contact me at the Email [e-mail]
for more information.

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[e-mail] (Fernando Benitez) writes:


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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Lightwave Modeler
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+-- Steve Barratt <[e-mail]> writes:
| Can anybody help a new user to Lightwave. I am receiving an error
| message whilst using the Boelean Function in modeler ? Message
| say's Internal Buffers too small for this operation. How can I
| increase the Internal Buffers?

There was a bug in Modeler 3.5 running under the Toaster on the
Amiga which caused this to happen.  If you have that version, there
is a patch available.  All other versions work correctly.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: have problems w/ modeler(newbie ?)
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+-- [e-mail] (emmanuel olympia) writes:
| whenever i do anything in modeler and load it into layout, what i get in
| layout is all screwed up.  even when a take existing obj. and rotate them
| in modeler and then load it into layout, the obj are getting screwed up.
| it will have the form, but it will add superflous lines, etc. does anyone
| know what the problem is? thx.

Could you provide more information -- system type, LightWave version,
object size?  A more complete description of the problem would aid in
understanding it.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: Frank McMahon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 16:53:39 -0500
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Per Swantesson wrote:
>
> I'm trying to make a commercial video (rendered in Lightwave) with Adobe
> Premiere LE (with a mro dc20 MJPEG-card). The big problem is file size.
> 100 seconds of SVHS-resolution  animation requires 3.000.000.000 bytes
> (3Gb) of discspace. Premiere only accept non-compressed animation files
> (tiff or targa). I've got 3 Gb of HD but I must have room for lots of
> other files too!
>

Well first of all, if you properly installed the DC20 drivers, you
should have an AVI option in Lightwave for the DC20 MJPEG format. That
way you can render directly to a MJPEG file and not go through the
Premiere compiling and compression. I just downloaded the lastest
drivers from the Miro web site and they installed fine with my DC20.
Also try different resolutions with the DC20 drivers to save file space,
it can render in Letterbox and/or with TV cropping.


Frank McMahon
=============
Production Supervisor
WCTV - Westerly, Rhode Island

http://ids.net/~frankmcmahon/home.htm
* Director, Graphic Artist, Videographer and Author *

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From: [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver)
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Subject: Re: Question about light flare
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In <4hkghl$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Blake
Porter) wrote:

>Howdy!
>
>I would like to bring in a flying logo then have a light "flare" flare up
>from behind and engulf the entire screen in pure light giving me the
>opportunity to alter the logo i.e. make it change into a new version
>while you cannot see it. So when the light receeds I have a new version.
>
>Question: How to get a flare to engulf the camera view?

Just krank it's intensity value way up to a big, big number.
Don't worry about going over the 100% mark!
It'll absorb the entire screen.


--
________________
Jan-Willem Korver
MarketGraph, Haarzuilens, The Netherlands
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could someone please tell me how to subscribe to the lightwave mailing
list?

Thanks
Gary Barringer
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Looking for info and opinions on Sparks, Particle Storm, Impact, plugins,....
Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:26:00 -0700
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In article <4hdca6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MuMan) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (MuMan)
>Subject: Looking for info and opinions on Sparks, Particle Storm, Impact, plugins,....
>Date: 4 Mar 1996 00:08:38 GMT

>Are the any Web Pages giving specs on what exactly these can do?

>Sparks v. Particle Storm
>Similar? Which is better? What all can they do? Is it just pixel based
>particles or can you flock you own models?

I have heard that Particle Storm is better/easier than Sparks.  However, we
only have Sparks and it just paid for itself easily on the short animation I
just finished.  I had fun making a Comet/Star object that just couldn't have
been done economically without a plugin of some sort.  I didn't find Sparks
intuitive, but I did have my comet trail 90% done in about an hour by looking
at the included examples and reading the manual while tests rendered.  The
writer of the manual has a good sense of humor to boot.

The basic paradigm is that you create an object made up of single point
polygons.  Sparks (which is an object displacement plugin) then has the
ability to "spray" particles off in the direction of the object's Y axis.  It
can have gravity act on the particles.  You can also change various parameters
that affect the "spray".

Particles can be made to bounce and colide as well.

Even if Particle Storm is better, I have no regrets about Sparks.



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In article <[e-mail]>, Adam Chrystie ([e-mail]) writes:
>There are some plugins at ftp.newtek.com directory
>plugins...there is a shareware anime shader there.
>
>There are also some renderman shaders floating around the net at
>this www site
>
>http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~sams/LightShade/LightShade.html
>
>Adam Chrystie
>
>

Can Renderman shaders be used with LW? If so, in what form (ascii,
bytecode)?


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From: [e-mail] (Frédéric DRUILHET)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: RAM & Diamond Stealth Problems
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>We are running Lightwave Rev. B on a P133 32megs RAM,
>Diamond Stealth 64w/1megDRAM SonyMultiscan17sfII:
>
>Lightwave only seems to recognize 10Megs of RAM in the scene panel
>even though we have 32 (running Win95 BTW).  Does this mean LW uses
>22megs JUST for the program?!?!?
>
>In Modeler, The 2 view windows on the bottom are somewhat garbled: the
>grid looks ok in the default screen, but if we zoom in or out, the
>bottom half of the grid in these windows gets shifted to the right
>
>In Lightwave, Wireframe previews render garbage.
>
>Any help here? (our 2megs of DRAM for the Stealth are on order - will
>this solve all our problems or are we being punished for not using our
>Amiga much anymore?)
>
>
>Todd Mizomi
>Photo-guy/Video-guy/Computer-guy/Whatever-else-they-throw-at-me
>Maui, Hawaii

I've got the same problems with quite the same computer:
10megs in layout : win95 will free more if needed !
garbage in preview : use the win 95 "trio 968" drivers and it'll fine but
interleaced in 1024*768

Anything else ? Pleased to help you...
a new french user of lightwave
frederic druilhet
[e-mail]
http://www.planete.net/~druilhet


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Story Smells Fishy
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In article <4hg3kv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stranahan) writes:


>Who is it? I don't know, but some people can't respond with argument so
>they try and destroy my character. Whoever you are, you're a coward...


>_____________________________________________
>Lee Stranahan
>URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

Actually, I think it solidifies your position because it was so poorly done,
and because it is the exact type of response one would expect when there isn't
a very good legitimate counter response available.  If you can't debate the
facts, debate the person.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Background images in modeler? any tips?
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In article <4hgq1l$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
>Subject: Re: Background images in modeler? any tips?
>Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:21:25 -0500

>>In article <4gvsap$[e-mail]> [e-mail]

>>(MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>
>>>to re-draw.  Is there anything else I can do BESIDES going to lower
>>>resolution desktops and smaller windows in modeler?
>
>(Walter (Jay) Turberville )' wrote:
>>===============================
>>Yes.  Get a P166.
>>
>
>Oh you're no help... :')
>
>Actually I think all the difference a 166mhz machine might make is a 40%
>increase in speed meaning one minute re-draws instead of two.  Faster
>machines won't mean much until they're many multiples faster. I suspect the
>only answer to my problem may be using lower resolutions in modeler and/or
>virtual desktops.
>
>--
>M C L -

Yeah - but you specifically discounted those "solutions" in your original
post.   :^)



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: RAM & Diamond Stealth Problems
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In article <[e-mail]> Todd Mizomi <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Todd Mizomi <[e-mail]>
>Subject: RAM & Diamond Stealth Problems
>Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 21:57:43 -1000

>We are running Lightwave Rev. B on a P133 32megs RAM,
>Diamond Stealth 64w/1megDRAM SonyMultiscan17sfII:

>Lightwave only seems to recognize 10Megs of RAM in the scene panel
>even though we have 32 (running Win95 BTW).  Does this mean LW uses
>22megs JUST for the program?!?!?

No.  The information in that window is actually not particularly relevant to
anything.  In fact, I believe NewTek considered removing it.  Don't worry.
All your RAM is probably working for you.

>In Modeler, The 2 view windows on the bottom are somewhat garbled: the
>grid looks ok in the default screen, but if we zoom in or out, the
>bottom half of the grid in these windows gets shifted to the right

My best guess is that you need updated video drivers.  Most display problems
in LightWave reported here get resolved that way.

>In Lightwave, Wireframe previews render garbage.

See above.   I have a Diamond DRAM PCI card ( I forget the model, but it is
not a particularly expensive one - Diamond Stealth Video I think?) and it
works fine.  I only have 1mb installed as well (though there is an additional
1mb tacked to the bulletin board ) that I will install next time I open the
case - No, the tack does not go through the chips.)

>Any help here? (our 2megs of DRAM for the Stealth are on order - will
>this solve all our problems or are we being punished for not using our
>Amiga much anymore?)
>Todd Mizomi


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In article <[e-mail]> Todd Mizomi <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Todd Mizomi <[e-mail]>
>Subject: RAM & Diamond Stealth Problems
>Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 21:57:43 -1000

>We are running Lightwave Rev. B on a P133 32megs RAM,
>Diamond Stealth 64w/1megDRAM SonyMultiscan17sfII:


>In Modeler, The 2 view windows on the bottom are somewhat garbled: the
>grid looks ok in the default screen, but if we zoom in or out, the
>bottom half of the grid in these windows gets shifted to the right

>In Lightwave, Wireframe previews render garbage.

OOH!   I forgot.  You might try using the sliders for the video display to
reduce the degree of hardware accelleration used by the drivers.  I forget the
steps to get there, but will check for you if you can't figure it out.

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